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Ridgeline Towing - Event Date: 27 Jan 2022 - 27 Mar 2022 |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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The weight issue is not a function of how close to home to tow, but what conditions you encounter while towing. A trip only 10 minutes from home can become a nightmare if you encounter very strong cross-winds while driving at highway speeds. Whether it happens to you in FL or in NM, doesn't make any difference. The most important thing to keep in mind is not how far you travel, but whether you are within the margin of safety for the limits of your TV and trailer. If you plan on towing only on flat terrain, then mountin climbing will not be an issue, but high winds can occur in many places, so be aware of the weather where you'll tow and be prepared to wait if needed.
You don't need a Kenworth MontaƱero to tow a 195, but you also don't need to do it with a Toyota Prius. If you're thinking of buying a Ridgline to tow a 195, there are a lot of other choices that may be more satisfactory in the long run. If you already have the Ridgeline, then picking a trailer that is within the capacity of the Ridgeline (including a margin of error) will be equally satisfactory. Good luck and safe travels.
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Tars Tarkas ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1452 |
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You might want to add an auxiliary transmission cooler if you don't have one already and, I don't know how the gears work on the Ridgeline, but if it's a 5-speed, for example,you pretty definitely want to to tow in 4th all the time, except when you need to gear down lower. And you will need to gear down sometimes. Running in 5th, or Drive, can cook your transmission fluid pretty easily. My truck only has an idiot light for transmission fluid temp so I added a ScanGuage II that shows actual temps. It has been very enlightening and helpful. TT TT
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John D ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Jan 2022 Location: Port St John, F Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Thanks for your reply. We do not intend to tour the U.S. We plan to travel light and I have weighed the trailer and we come up to less than 4,100 lbs while we are rated for 5,000 lbs. We have installed a WD hitch, brake controller, cameras, etc.
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mjlrpod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221 |
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Btw I completely agree with the "relativity" argument when it comes to tow vehicles. If you intend to pull a camper to a place, maybe an hour or two away from the house, a couple times a year, the "what works" numbers are much different than if you are towing very often, to destinations 8 or more hours away. It might not be a comfortable towing experience when your almost maxed out, but it will work if your careful. I don't buy snap on tools for every nut I need to tighten, sometimes I buy the cheap import that isnt rated to last a lifetime, and it works.
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mjlrpod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221 |
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And every time I start climbing up my 195 ladder, I think to my self, "This ladder is the same quality as everything else forest river put in / on this camper, I hope I make it"
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Dirt Sifter ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 2018 Location: Right side OR Online Status: Offline Posts: 170 |
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And on a lighter note, we all understand that knowing the equipment we're talking about is important; thank goodness the 195 comes with its own ladder attached.
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Greg n Deb 2020 195 HRE
'07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages 1 Puggle, 1 Chihuahua support staff |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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TT, why would you say I base my response on being a solar engineer? I base my response on an engineering analysis of my Highlander/179 combo and my personal experience driving that rig. The Highlander and Ridgeline have very similar capabilities. The 179 is much lighter and smaller that the 195. I considered my rig to be acceptable but not optimum because I needed to carefully monitor weight, a heavier tow vehicle would have been better.
The analysis portion is a simple problem in statics that any 1st year engineering student should be able to solve. Heck, it's done for you in the towing calculator, all you need to do is plug in some numbers. The only thing I am using my professional background for here is to avoid being fuzzy in my response, because as I explained I have learned that doesn't do anyone any favors. Folks are either looking for clear input or have already decided to do whatever it is and looking for justification to make them feel better about it. Either way, it goes without saying it's a personal choice, folks can ovbiouy do what they want, there are no towing police out there going to stop you. Well I guess maybe there are in extreme circumstances, if you were towing a 35 ft triple axle trailer with a compact SUV the state police would probably pull you over. Whether you look at that as the officer doing his or her job or as unreasonable governmental interference is up to you. So feel free to ignore my posts, it's ok with me. If my response makes you or anyone want to buy a 195 and a Ridgeline just to show something can be done, that's also up to you. But it wouldn't be convincing, any more than not falling off a cheap ladder or any other anecdotal report is convincing. Safety is a game of statistics, by selecting the right ladder or the right tow vehicle we are trying to take the accident rate down from one in 1,000 to 1 in 100,000 or similar math. You would need thousands of cases to demonstrate that kind of difference. Lacking that, we must fall back on analysis and experience in similar circumstances, resulting in the establishment of appropriate safety factors, which is what I did. |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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Tars, lighten up, you're going to drive up your blood pressure. I was only trying to pull your leg in my post, which is why I put the "wink" emoji after it, so that no one would take it literally.
I think the OP was looking for someone who has actual experience towing a 195 with a Ridgeline and I suspect no one on this board has it. Assuming the good faith of our fellow board members wanting to be helpful, it looks to me like many, including you, were suggesting that we should not tow stuff beyond the capacity of the TV and trailer's capacity and safety margin, all in an effort to be helpful. Some may be more blunt while others more circumspect, but everyone did his/her best. So it's all good. Be happy.
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Tars Tarkas ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1452 |
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I am a lot closer to my dotage than I used to be but insults help. Actually, I have never cared for people making statements like only they know best, especially when there is obviously (plenty) of room for other valid opinions. Note that the OP asked for guidance from other Ridgeline owners. He's gotten none, including from me. The most opinionated advice he's gotten is from someone who bases his response on his experience as a solar engineer and as the owner of another vehicle. I stated earlier that at the bottom line I agree with Offgrid. By the numbers, the Ridgeline is not a great choice for towing a 195. In the long run that combo is likely to make the owner unhappy. Is it doable? Yes, with care and some caveats perhaps. Assuming the OP has a Ridgeline already and doesn't want to swap it out for a bigger truck or SUV, I think a smaller, lighter trailer would certainly be a better choice. The difference is between recommending against the Ridgeline and stating that it won't work. TT
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Dirt Sifter ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 2018 Location: Right side OR Online Status: Offline Posts: 170 |
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Greg n Deb 2020 195 HRE
'07 Tundra 5.7L., '17 Tacoma 3.5L. Both with tow packages 1 Puggle, 1 Chihuahua support staff |
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