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Cargo Carrying Capacity on r-pod 176 |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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If it doesn't help sell more trailers the industry will fight it, regardless of whether it improves safety or not. The argument they would probably use in this case is that everypone's loading requirements are different so you can't take a one size fits all approach. There is some truth to that especially if the customer hasn't towed or camped using a trailer before.
But in reality rigs like people tend to gain weight over time. So if you're new at this and want to make a choice that provides for some headroom for load growth and safety factor, just use the gross weight (empty wt + ccc) of the trailer. For the TV, use the curb weight and add 1000 lbs which would allow you to carry 4 "FAA standard" 170 lb adults (soon expected to be raised to 190 lbs average due to the increase in obesity) and about 300 lbs of gear, which is not really a whole lot. Typically the above will require at least a 5000 lb rated TV. The other consideration is tongue weight. Most 5000 lb rated vehicles will have a Max tongue weight of 500 lbs, or 10% of max trailer weight. 10% is the bare minimum to mitigate sway. Add to that that it's not possible to keep your tongue weight to a fixed number as your trailer loading changes (especially water weight) and you can see that often the TV tongue weight rating will be your imiting factor. A typical 3% variation in tongue weight would put a 3800 lb Rpod in the range of 380-500 llbs on the tongue. Another reason why a 500 tongue/5000 tow lb rated vehicle With careful loading) is generally your minimum choice. |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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Maybe RV dealers should be required to run this calculation as a part of the sale/delivery process. If the consumer's TV comes up short either s/he has to find higher capacity TV or the deal is canceled. This would have to be a legal requirement, like the DMV stuff, as it is unlikely many dealers would want to do it voluntarily. Just a thought.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2709 |
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It's a very handy calculator: WDH Calculator
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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lostagain ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595 |
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billyingolden, consider using the calculator that offgrid has posted a number of times to calculate your trailer and TV capacity. Maybe he can put the link in again. If you plug in the numbers, you will have a much better idea of where your weights are vis-a-vi your vehicle's capacity. You will need to weigh your trailer and TV at a public scale to get all the numbers you'll need to plug into the calculator, but in the end you'll be well informed and will be able to tow your trailer with the peace of mind that you are within the TV's weight capacity.
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Never leave footprints behind.
Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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You're not in great shape necessarily. The tow rating you have assumes you have an empty tow vehicle, only a driver on board. You don't get to load 1600 lbs in the TV and at the same time tow a 5000 lb trailer.
Look at the MCGVWR (Max combined gross vehicle weight rating). Should be on your driver's door sticker. That is the most your whole rig can weigh. Assume your trailer weight comes in at or near it's max. That is very likely with an rpod especially if you boondock carrying water, dual batteries, or dual propane cylinders. Subtract that weight from the MCGVWR. That is the most your Telluride can weigh. Subtract the SUV's curb weight from that. That is the the most all the stuff, people, pets etc in the Telluride can weigh. You'll find it's less than you think. I did. Then you'll have to decide how close to the MCGVWR you really want to be driving down the freeway in bad weather in traffic. There is a difference between what is strictly legal and what is safe for the various conditions you will experience. Most people want to be well under their max ratings. I want at least a 10-20% safety factor personally. Not saying you can't do what you're planning. My TV has a similar set of ratings to yours. But there are just two of us and I found we had to be very careful what we carried. Just the bare minimum stuff beyond what was required when boondocking. |
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billyingolden ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
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We have a Kia Telluride with tow package. The payload capacity is ~1600 lbs, and the three of us weigh less than 300 lbs combined, so I think we're in pretty good shape on that front. Great callout though, thank you!
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RoverPod ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 2020 Location: Virginia Online Status: Offline Posts: 118 |
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What is the payload capacity of your tow vehicle? You will need to consider that when you start loading up the tow vehicle with passengers and bags and stuff.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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The manufacturers just try to make trailers appear to be extremely light so they can sell them to people with little SUVs towing them
I long since lost track of the number of folks joining here with 3500 lb rated vehicles who want to tow trailers too big for them. Not safe. You don't have that problem, you have a robust tow vehicle so it's more a matter of where you wind up carrying your heavy stuff. If you don't mind putting it in the truck and otherwise like the trailer you've picked I'd say go for it. if you want it all loaded in the trailer then get something that can handle that, your TV should be fine. |
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Colt ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Nov 2019 Online Status: Offline Posts: 383 |
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LOL! Yes to all of the above! Why would you doubt the manufacturer? The published Unloaded Vehicle Weight of my 180 is very close at 2950 lbs. Ready to travel, mine weighs 3122 lbs. R-Pods are designed to be unusually light so you won't be able to haul your gold stash in it. |
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billyingolden ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 22 Dec 2021 Online Status: Offline Posts: 13 |
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Thank you! So I guess the question I have is whether I should reconsider purchasing it? It'll be me and my partner and our 2 year old, and we should have quite a bit of room in our tow vehicle to keep bags and stuff, but I wasn't sure if that's just normal and it's fine, or if that quite low CCC should be cause for concern.
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