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    Posted: 17 May 2021 at 6:58pm
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Wow, podwekz. That's great. Where do you get a $20 data plan from AT&T? Can you hotspot with it? Data cap? I've never seen such a deal?

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I'm grandfathered in on the $20/mo Mobley Connected Car (kinda unlimited) data plan from 2017....they let me keep it and I have no plans to let it go anytime soon. It's a hotspot so yes, I can hotspot with it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 6:55pm
Zero Verizon signal here so Visible won't work. I just got a voice/text plus pay as you go data plan from Google fi. Very reasonable.

We make VOIP calls only at home anyway so practically use no mobile data as we're not travelling right now. I was pleased to find I do get a decent us cellular signal from some of our property so that's good. At the house it's only around -110db. I might connect up the weboost from the rpod and see if that helps.

I ran the cute little starlink survey app and it seems to want pretty much a north facing exposure here. No problem. So I ordered it, we'll see.

I don't like the guy either, I've seen his solar company's (now part of Tesla) business and employee practices in action. But then I don't care for any other billionaires either and I buy their products....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 6:24pm
I have looked at Google fi for my RV WiFi and local mobile WiFi. T-Mobile got no signal - zip - where I am. 

In meantime Visible has just gotten better. I got a Gl iNet 750M to play with in addition to my Mango. The latest firmware has made a huge difference in crazy easy lan network setup w/tethering and one little line of code to adjust TTL ( basically bypass 5 Mbps cap on tethering ) and the Visible hotspot has become a really viable connection.

Because I have referred two customers to Visible in the last two months, I have been paying $5.00/mt for unlimited, non-capped data. Can't beat that! My normal rate is $25/mt. Last week, while in Trap Pond State Park I was really surprised how well my camp WiFi (FredNet) was working. Had no problem with Google YouTubeTV via Visible and Chromecast, but could barely get a signal with my AT&T phone.

We have gotten off the track of Starlink.

Hard to say when those 7 minutes of down time was. Could have been at 4 AM doing a firmware update - beta mystery. As Musk has already said they plan on offering phone service with Starlink, I don't think dropouts will be an issue in the near future.

Like I have said several times, it may not be the perfect answer for everyone. It is, howeve, very well executed technology that, heretofore, no-one else has been able to match. Kind of like landing 80+ booster rockets on a floating barges and re-using them to fly again. I personally don't like the guy, but his organizations are pulling off some pretty incredible engineering.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 5:54pm
Fwunder, you might also want to look at Google fi. VMNO on tmob and us cellular. Has some interesting plan options.

My understanding is that failover doesn't work because you lose the call. 7 minutes of outages would be bad for my wife, especially if it was multiple short dropouts. What I need for my wife if I get starlink and have a 2nd service would be channel bonding I think. Podwerkz, you might want to look into that as well.

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Wow, podwekz. That's great. Where do you get a $20 data plan from AT&T? Can you hotspot with it? Data cap? I've never seen such a deal?

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Just today we are getting ready for another round of storms....we have had several days of evening severe weather....life out here in the sticks....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 3:01pm
More stats....

Just for grins, I ran speed tests on the same computer but logged onto my AT&T hotspot, then logged onto my T-Mobile phone in tethering mode...


Not as fast as starlink....but about $20 for AT&T and about $30 for my T-Mobile plan....and not too shabby on the speeds....in fact, better than the old DSL and U-verse plans I had at my previous sticks and bricks...

So I'm in no hurry...as of yet...




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 1:34pm
Some stats for nerds...

Last 12 hours

Ping Success:  Average 99%  •  Last 100%

No Satellites: 42 seconds
Other outages: 7 minutes **
Obstructions: 0

Latency: Min 23 ms  •  Max 54 ms  • Last 46 ms

** Generally described as Beta Downtime - software/firmware updates, etc

Currently there are 1675 satellites launched of which 915 are on station.

Just for fun:  https://starlink.sx




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 11:23am
I was considering a failover switch for J and advising him to hang on to DSL for a little while. But, he was soooo excited with how well it was working and soooo anxious to cancel DSL, there was no stopping him!

You are exactly right. It's really not for those who already have fast and reliable broadband. It is actually promoted as "Better Than Nothing Beta". 

It's also not for you if you live in a forrest! Obstructions ( currently to the NNW ) are a huge issue. At least until the constellation is so built out the connection beam can be maintained through a thin sliver of sky.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 2021 at 11:12am
Yeah I probably wouldn't consider spacex's solution either if I had an alternative. But the dsl is flaky cellular is worse, and no way I'm gonna use geosync sat service at it's price, latency, and data limit structure. At least starlink has low latency and doesn't have data limits (for now).

My wife works from home and is on the phone all day. So I need VOIP to work, landline service is silly expensive and doesn't work well here either. So I might try starlink although it appears most of the Southeast isn't well covered yet. From the reddit comments if sounds like I could keep the dsl and add the starlink and use speedify to maintain service when either experiences an outage.
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