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lostagain 
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 Topic: Whats pulling your RPodPosted: 21 Feb 2021 at 9:30am |
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The supply/demand situation will probably take several years to get back in sync. The fact is that with boomers now in retirement age and remaining very active, travel trailer camping will be booming for the foreseeable future. Add to that the supply chain and production problems caused by Covid and you have tight market conditions that will be aggravate the already high demand for trailers.
We paid about $9,500 for our 172 and sold it for $8,000 after owning it for 4 years, less than $400 a year depreciation. To that I had to add the cost of a new fridge and water heater, so it adds up to about $600 a year; not bad compared to the Bowlus' near 50% crash in price over the same time. And, as I mentioned above, our Sonoma has appreciated about 20% in the same market where the Bowlus dropped precipitously.
As for value for the buck, we're all better off buying travel trailers targeted at the common person. But the nobility must differentiate itself or we may not realize how important they are. |
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offgrid
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Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 6:30am |
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I think the present resale situation is probably pretty unusual due to supply/demand imbalance from Covid. I paid 10k for my 2015 179 (list price was 19.5k) in March 2018. That’s probably more typical. But that supply/demand imbalance isn’t going to hit a luxury item like the Bowlus which I expect are all made to order anyway.
In any case I certainly agree that an rpod and a backup rpod or two would make more sense for most folks than a Road Chief. But when did a luxury purchase ever have to make sense? |
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lostagain
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 5:21pm |
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OG, I think the depreciation on value lightweight trailers isn't as bad as the luxury market. I just checked prices for the same trailer in RV Trader and the asking price is over $3K more than I paid for mine and, it's a lower level "Coastal Edition." I didn't count the added value on my trailer of the EasyStart I just put in.
Just with the depreciation on a Bowlus one could buy 4 nice rPods that provide a similar glamping experience and when it gets dirty, just sell it and buy another. No servants needed to polish it. |
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offgrid
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 3:06pm |
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Podwerks, take your idea on step further. By the time you get to it, you could build that battery powered RV on a autonomous Tesla Cybertruck chassis and let it drive itself from campground to campground. Then you and your passengers can tool around in a regular road ev, stopping to see the sights and never worrying about where to park the rig. When you get to your RV it will already be set up, leveled, and climate conditioned ready to go. 👍
LA, I can’t put myself in the mind of a Si Valley billionaire well enough to know what he would call using a Bowlus rig. Probably he would only use it once and revert to traveling in his non-electric fuel guzzling private jet. Why travel at 60 mph to a public campground when you can travel at 400 knots to your private island? And when you get there after burning through a couple thousand gallons of jet A you can have all your green tech there so you can feel good about saving a few gallons not running a diesel genny. 50% depreciation from list price in 4 years is pretty normal for RVs. it’s just that starting at a quarter mill makes it painful for those of us of modest net worth. Are you gonna make an offer on that Road Chief? Be sure your staff is on board nto keep that thing polished first. |
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podwerkz
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 12:38pm |
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One solution for pulling a travel trailer or camping trailer with an EV is to install a large battery pack in the floor of the trailer, and provide either: drive motors for the wheels of the trailer, OR an umbilical connection to the EV so that it can siphon off power to charge itself as it cruises down the road.
I'm gonna build all this in my backyard....one day.  |
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r･pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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lostagain
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 10:55am |
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OG, I think you meant to say "glamping."
Given the tank capacities, the cargo capacity, and the tiny fridge, it looks like you'd never go boondocking in this land yacht. The only thing that seems to be a real advantage is the LI battery system that provides provides a considerable amount of power to run high consumption stuff like the AC. But in the end, you still have to charge the batteries up and that means an inverter generator or a pretty hefty solar array. If you're into mostly useless conspicuous consumption, this can be the the ideal trailer to go from RV park to RV park and have everyone look at you with envy. On a side note, I found a 2017 Bowlus Road Chief for sale on an RV website for $118,500. New ones go for $225,000. Over $100K in depreciation in 4 model years, hmmmm?, not bad I suppose.
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offgrid
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:59am |
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Starting at only $265k. Perfect for your Silicon Valley billionaires who want to go “camping” but make a “statement”. Check out the interiors. 7 kWh Li battery. Even had pull out doggie bowls for Fido 😜
https://bowlus.com/terra-firma/ |
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lostagain
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 9:40am |
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There was an r-Pod in the background.
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Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 8:52am |
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BOWLUS TRAVEL TRAILER TOWED BY A "TESLA
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