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offgrid 
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 Topic: Whats pulling your RPodPosted: 08 Aug 2020 at 9:51am |
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And lest we forget, we shouldn't be letting the bad big boys who cheated on the diesel emissions standards on their vehicles off so easy either. We're talking millions of vehicles manufactured over many years, and those guys bilked their customers as well as polluted the environment by selling them on how clean their engines were when they were in many cases putting out 10x the levels of contaminants they were supposed to. That's not just VW either, Fiat Chrysler Jeep, Nissan Renault, Audi, Porsche, and yes Mercedes have all been caught cheating. A year or two in jail for their C level managers would nip that behavior in the bud I bet...
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lostagain
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 9:32am |
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The people who deliberately modify diesel pickups to pollute more live in states where there are few, if any, vehicle pollution inspections, or they make a temporary change to pass their inspection, then revert to the deliberately polluting our air. As far as I am concerned, any pickup spewing out black smoke should be confiscated and sent to a vehicle crusher and sold as scrap metal. The bad little boys who deliberately give the rest of us the middle finger should be sent to jail for a year or two.
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Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost |
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StephenH
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 8:45am |
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+1. It is illegal to delete the emissions controls on Diesel engines. I don't know how any of them pass emissions tests if required by the state in which it is registered.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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podwerkz
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 7:57am |
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lol...before they took (almost) all of the sulfur out of diesel fuel, I used to love the way those smoky old buses and dumptrucks smelled...
But actually, newer on-road diesels are very clean burning, its all part of the emissions technology, including particulate filters and DEF injection. Having said that, yeah the mouth-breathers that drive around with 'deleted' diesel pickups, rolling coal and making a bunch of racket, are giving modern diesels a bad name. |
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r･pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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malkbean2
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 7:41am |
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dont know about all that other stuff but i do know that burning deisel stinks and gasoline doesnt
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offgrid
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Posted: 08 Aug 2020 at 5:50am |
A lot of effort? Took me a whole 30 seconds. I didn't look up any charts, and my 15% was meant as a rough approximation for volume units, which is how we all buy the stuff, as was clearly stated by both the OP and myself. Bottom line, you cannot directly compare fuel economy between the two fuels on an miles per gallon basis. Running down diesel? Not at all. I have nothing against diesel other than that its a fossil fuel, but so is gasoline, propane, etc. I've used them all in both my own engines and in hybrid remote power systems I've designed and installed professionally. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. If you like to run diesel then go for it. Just don't argue that you have great fuel economy because you consume 15% less fuel by volume than gasoline. You don't. I do want to see a level playing field though. The fact is that once diesel was required to play by similar emissions rules as gasoline it lost much of its advantage in lighter vehicles. And if you disagree that diesel should meet the emissions standards just go spend a few months in India as I have, where you have whole cities choking to death on PM2.5 diesel particulate pollution, then let's talk.
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jato
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 9:35pm |
Yes indeed, original motor and transmission. With the engine I did change out the distributor cap every other year and the plugs every third year. Use synthetic oil and change at every 10,000 miles. On the tranny side it had to have a new clutch and throw out bearing (yes, a stick shift) at 268,000 miles, not too bad for a work truck. The most amazing thing is that after killing 31 deer (all in the front end of the truck) the only 2 times it sustained damage was once when I was sitting still watching about 30 deer cross in front of me 40 yards away, this deer came out of the cornfield and coldcocked me right behind the driver door, had only owned the truck for 2 days, put a hefty dent in the side of the truck and the crazy deer left with only a lump on her head. Unfortunately there was no insurance on the truck yet so I lived with that dent for 21 years. Second time was in the winter when a snowshoe rabbit jumped in front of me and took out the front grill and my radiator. Hmmm, that rabbit kill cost more to fix than 31 deer kills together - go figure.
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'11 model 177 '17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake "...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." |
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StephenH
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 9:01pm |
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That chart is slightly misleading. We fill our tanks by the gallon or liter, not by the pound. Therefore, it makes sense to calculate the energy per gallon or liter, not per pound. The chart is best interpreted then by looking at the right hand column. Gasoline has 114761 Btu/gal and Diesel has 129306 Btu/gal.That means that Diesel fuel has 112.68% more energy per gallon than gasoline or put the other way, gasoline has only 88.75% of the energy of Diesel per gallon. What hurts gasoline also is the Ethanol blends. The figure I saw stated that 10% ethanol blends have only slightly over 96% of the BTU value of straight gasoline. That makes the difference between Gasohol and Diesel even larger. This Gasoline Gallon Equivalent Table provides a pretty good picture of these relative values.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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podwerkz
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 8:48pm |
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Mark Twain said it: There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics.
The fact is, we don't buy diesel or gasoline by the pound, we buy it by the gallon, and...by the gallon, diesel has about 15% more BTU per gallon as stated by offgrid, and showing in the chart. Diesel can cost 15% more, or sometimes as high as 50% more per gallon depending on the pump prices in effect at the time. Then figure in higher maintenance cost for the diesel engine over its life, and DEF, etc, the differences are not that significant for light trucks and commuter cars. Certainly, the higher power that turbo diesels produce IS a huge advantage when pulling trailers.
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Colt
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Posted: 07 Aug 2020 at 8:21pm |
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Offgrid, That's sure a lot of effort to run down diesel. Diesel IS more dense than gasoline, but the BTU content is not significantly different, with a slight edge to gasoline. Combustion occurs on a mass basis, so comparing BTU/lb or kg makes sense. The attached pic is from engineeringtoolbox.com  |
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