Towing rpod 192 - Event Date: 28 May 2020 - 30 Jun 2020

Message Share Topic Printable Version Google Delicious Digg StumbleUpon Windows Live Yahoo Bookmarks reddit Facebook MySpace Newsvine Furl Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic

   StephenH, sounds like you'd really enjoy an F-150 with an eco-boost engine.  I'll bet you could get a good price for your Nissan.  Right now there are probably some pretty good deals on F-150's.  

Author	Message Share Topic Printable Version Google Delicious Digg StumbleUpon Windows Live Yahoo Bookmarks reddit Facebook MySpace Newsvine Furl Topic Search Topic Options Post Reply Create New Topic
lostagain Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 06 Sep 2016 Location: Quaker Hill, CT Online Status: Offline Posts: 2595	Calendar Event: Towing rpod 192 Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:28pm
	StephenH, sounds like you'd really enjoy an F-150 with an eco-boost engine. I'll bet you could get a good price for your Nissan. Right now there are probably some pretty good deals on F-150's.
	Never leave footprints behind. Fred & Maria Kearney Sonoma 167RB Our Pod 172 2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost

StephenH Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6428	Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 2:07pm
	There are two things that would help the Frontier. One is to improve the transmission. Our 2010 Frontier's 5 speed transmission could use more gears which would help in cases where it kicks down on uphill climbs. Sometimes, 3rd gear isn't sufficient and it kicks down to 2nd (I think), and the RPMs climb into the screaming range. The second is a turbocharger. Putting a turbo (or super) charger on the engine would really help in the mountains. The Escape we used to have had a 2L Ecoboost engine and six speeds. In the mountains, it performed better than the 4L naturally aspirated V6 in the Frontier. Specs for the 2016 Ecoboost are 240 hp @ 5500 rpm and 270 ft-lbs @ 3000 rpm. The Frontier is rated at 261 hp @ 5600 rpm and 281 ft-lbs @ 4000 rpm. While it seems like the Frontier is better, that is at sea level. When accounting for the 3% power loss per 1000 ft, it isn't hard to see why the turbocharger just works better. At 6,000 ft, the 18% power loss in the Frontier is felt while the turbo engine still acts like it was at sea level. I just looked and the specs on the 2020 Frontier were better with a 9 speed transmission and 310 hp @ 281 ft-lbs or torque, but I could not find out the rpms at which those numbers were generated. It is, however, still naturally aspirated and would have the same power loss at altitude that the current Frontiers have.
	StephenH Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS

Capt Kidd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 18 Aug 2015 Location: Chico, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 215	Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 1:41pm
	I had a 179 and now have a 196. ?The 196 id almost 1000# heavier but actually tows better than the 179 did./ I tow with a Durango with the V6
	The Pirate's Pod

mjlrpod Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221	Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 12:53pm
	I would think you would have no problem at all pulling a 177 with a frontier. I pulled my 172 all over the place and never had an issue. the 172 and 177 are only a few hundred pounds apart. I now pull a 195 with it, and I notice a difference, but still have little trouble with towing. I pulled my 195 thru the White Mountains last year and it was fine. The biggest issue I have is, I don't like going over 3000 rpm, but sometimes need to to pick up speed up small inclines. At rare times, I will kick it up to as much as 4300 r.p.m. for steep climbs. 4300 probably isn't bad for the engine, but it "sounds" a bit much.
	2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding

Grant177 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 15 Mar 2020 Location: Edmonton, AB Online Status: Offline Posts: 65	Posted: 01 Jun 2020 at 10:24am
	Just starting towing this year and have a 2019 Nissan Frontier (V6). I would call it a bit lacking, but it does the trick up to about 60mph. After that, the wind wins... I certainly won't be doing anything faster and we'll plan our trips/routes accordingly...
	Grant 2011 R-Pod 177

mjlrpod Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Location: Massachusetts Online Status: Offline Posts: 1221	Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:47pm
	I tow a 195 with a Nissan Frontier. Although it would not upset me if I had a few more horse power for climbing, I have no plans of changing tow vehicles anytime soon.
	2017.5 Rp-172 2020 R-pod 195 2015 Frontier sv 4.0L 6cyl I'll be rpodding

Woodmiester Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 03 Aug 2018 Location: Greenwood IN Online Status: Offline Posts: 142	Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:45pm
	We tow our 190 with a 2004 Sport Trac V6 400 CID. Absolutely no problems towing this trailer! With the normal aspirated engine, we get a little slow on the big, long hills, but I don't get in a hurry anyway in hill country.
	Swampfox

Capt Kidd Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List podders Helping podders - pHp Joined: 18 Aug 2015 Location: Chico, CA Online Status: Offline Posts: 215	Posted: 29 May 2020 at 10:56am
	I tow my 196 with a Dodge Durango V-6 and it tows like a dream both up hill and down. At 60 mph with no headwinds in 7th gear I get 13 1/2 to 14 mpg.
	The Pirate's Pod

pbhooley Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 May 2020 Location: CO Online Status: Offline Posts: 3	Posted: 28 May 2020 at 4:46pm
	Thanks for the real life info. Staying with the 4 Runner for now but doing limited mileage trips as in no more than 100 miles one way.

CharlieM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797	Posted: 28 May 2020 at 4:21pm
	If the 4Runner is in good mechanical shape it should be OK. The V8 is definitely a plus. The newer V6s develop their horsepower ratings at screaming high RPMs. I presently tow a 24 ft. Livinlite (3600# empty, plus, plus) with a 2013 Tacoma V6. HOWEVER, I bought the belt driven supercharger option specifically for mountain driving. That option is no longer available. The unaided V6s are going to fail the test at altitude. That said, a newer Tacoma without the SC may only yield improved reliability. The Tundra with the 5.7 V8 or the F150 with the TurboBoost would be a better choice.
	Charlie Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD