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podwerkz ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
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With lithium iron batteries you need a compatible converter charger, a compatible solar controller, (if using solar) and a compatible B2B charger if you plan to charge lithium from your tow vehicle. (do not believe the marketing about lifepo4 being drop-in replacements...they kinda are but they kinda aren't. Like 'unlimited' cellular data) You might have missed the part where I said, open up that wallet. ![]() |
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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Since the unit that comes with the RPod is a 55A unit, I gave the number for the equivalent PD drop-in replacement. The 'Pod's AC circuitry is 30A, but the DC side is not the same. The 55A output is DC which is over 300A DC. The converter does not draw nearly that in AC amperage to output the 55A DC. Your EE friend should be able to explain this better than I can.
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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Thanks. I messed up my calculations when I wrote that. You said what I meant to say. I was thinking that if the 55A were the 120V AC, it would be over 300A DC. It is better to put it in terms of what the actual AC draw is to generate the 55A (maximum) DC output.
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Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Olddawgsrule ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2017 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
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Guess have two different WFCO's. Mine's a 35a max. WF8735 My max DC out (by fused circuit) is only 97.5a (dc) or 1219 watts or <11a (ac). These numbers exclude the reverse polarity fuse. Of course there is the potential of 336a DC, yet don't see that ever happening.
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Olddawgsrule ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2017 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
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Is that last DC fuse the input from the battery? 40a fuse?
I always thought it was the reverse polarity fuse, yet now wondering..
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podwerkz ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 2019 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 966 |
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Yeah mine has the 35a WFCO. Works fine for the r-pod 171...no slide...
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r・pod 171 gone but not forgotten!
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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Edit: Since yours is a different model, I would look it up on the WFCO site to get a diagram that shows the location of the reverse polarity protection fuses. Another edit: I looked and (now that I looked at the correct model), the bottom two fuses should be your reverse polarity protection fuses. |
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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Olddawgsrule ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 Sep 2017 Location: New Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1014 |
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Thank you for the effort. |
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Neither of those choices have anything to do with tow vehicle charging, they are ac source chargers only. If you want to do tow vehicle charging of a Li battery you will need another device. Here is one for example that provides a regulated dc output for Li battery charging and has dual inputs, one for solar and one for the TV 12V supply. Yep, its expensive. The question is, do you really need to convert all three charging sources (TV, grid, and solar) or can you do with one or two? One point here is that Li battery charging is actually much less complex than PbA battery charging. There is no need for a complex multistage charging sequence. You just need to stay below the max charging voltage for your specific battery, which a dc to dc converter providing a regulated output voltage can do. But it is critical that you do that, there can be serious consequences (eg, fires) if you don't. There are any number of folks that have converted to Li house batteries in their RV's, just not so much in rPods. But that doesn't matter, the electrons don't care what kind of RV it is. A Google search will bring up lots of hits for this conversion. |
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