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Richand Cindy
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Topic: Diagrams - photos Posted: 09 Apr 2019 at 8:38pm |
Not mentioned yet but it does not have to be an either/or solution. If you are hooked up to electric and use alot of hot water you can heat with BOTH electic and propane at the same time. You will get hot water much faster and very little propane is used to heat a 6 gal tank. We use both all the time we are hooked up. In our new RV the inside panel has two switches side by side for hot water so it is simple to use both. But as stated before, running out of water while electric is on will burn out the element which is why many manufacturers put the electic switch out of the way
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lostagain
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 5:52pm |
Using the breaker is confusing to people who are not accustomed to using breakers in their home as switches. The switch outside is hard to reach, especially for someone with a little arthritis in his/her hands and/or has bifocals which make it hard to see for the correct position.
In my addition of the switch in the foto, there was not one bit of additional wire used. They wire Pods so sloppily that I had plenty. I used the following materials that I had laying around the house: 1 shallow plastic switch box (cost 39¢), switch (69¢), switch plate (28¢), 2" plumber's tape (<1¢), 4 screws (<1¢), and a small block of reclaimed wood from when I ripped out the top bunk (free). Labor about 15 minutes as a retrofit. Total cost in materials $1.38 (retail). Labor using my usual and customary lawyer billing rate  ... it depends.
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mjlrpod
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 5:16pm |
Originally posted by TheBum
[QUOTE=Andiamo] Thanks. Stoopid to have to do this. Did govt design the original? (I can say that being a Forest Service retiree!) |
You can, as you said earlier in the post, just leave the outside switch on all the time and flip the switch in the breaker panel to turn it on/off. It is perfectly acceptable to do that.
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TheBum
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 1:26pm |
Originally posted by Andiamo
Thanks. Stoopid to have to do this. Did govt design the original? (I can say that being a Forest Service retiree!) |
I agree. A switch and the litle bit of additional wiring is minimal expense and easy to wire in while they're running power to the water heater anyway.
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Alan
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lostagain
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 1:17pm |
Most of the designs that the "government" uses are the brainchildren of government contractors from private industry. They just get adopted by the government official after a nice vacation sponsored by the contractor.
I should add: All the stuff I used for this switch was repurposed from junk I had laying around the garage, well, not really laying around but carefully stored away.  The total cost of this very functional modification was under $2.00.
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Andiamo
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 12:45pm |
Thanks. Stoopid to have to do this. Did govt design the original? (I can say that being a Forest Service retiree!)
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lostagain
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 12:35pm |
Here's the switch I put in. The 172 has the water heater on the port side aft of the refrigerator and heater under the dinette so it's easy access. 
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Andiamo
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 11:57am |
Thanks.
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TheBum
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 10:43am |
This was discussed in another topic, but adding a switch inline with the breaker to the water heater and mounting that switch in a convenient location is one option. Just make sure the switch is rated for sufficient voltage and current.
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Alan
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Andiamo
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Posted: 04 Apr 2019 at 10:24am |
Thanks. Syncs with what I sorta recall from my quick orientation at the dealer’s last summer. But counter-intuitive. Most people will use, as you say, shore power for their water heater. So why not have that be the obvious switch on the inside panel, not buried outside? Confusing and illogical. Not a electrician, but be nice to just swap the two so the panel switch turns on the shore power and the outside, “hidden” switch works the gas. Will discuss with my dealer. Like your workarounds. 😎 This forum has really been helpful.
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