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mcarter
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Topic: Propane tank transportation safety? Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:28am |
+1 to mile crate, in rear of PU under cap.
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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."
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lostagain
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Location: Quaker Hill, CT
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:33am |
Atomic 4's powered the world for many years. A great little engine. Simple to fix, ran forever. Production started in 1949 and 40,000 were produced with 20,000 still running. It was the successor to the Utility Four used in WWII. Mine ran fine. It was the gasoline in the bilge that spooked me.
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Fred & Maria Kearney
Sonoma 167RB
Our Pod 172
2019 Ford F-150 4x4 2.7 EcoBoost
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offgrid
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:36am |
Haven't found anything else yet so its legal as far as I can tell to secure up to 2 cylinders under the cap of pickup or in the back of an SUV, or in the trunk of a car. Ventilation is optional, personal choice. If anyone finds something that precludes this I'd be interested.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold
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furpod
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:38am |
Originally posted by offgrid
Just one caveat on dual tanks on the tongue, and that's tongue weight. You'll be adding 40 lbs, so be sure you have the headroom for that on your rig. I don't, which is the only reason I haven't done this yet. But as soon as I can get that 130 lbs of lead and sulfuric acid off of there its next on my list. |
One note.. the tongue is part of a "lever".. so the batteries are not accounting for 130lbs at the ball, on our 177, going to dual GC2's only added 27 pounds to the ball over a single G24. The second tank is farther forward then the batteries, but I suspect no more then 30 pounds transferred.
Our 177, dual GC2's, dual 20 pound tanks, electric tongue jack, tanks empty, loaded to camp, we had 380lbs +/- on the ball. Measured repeatedly with a Sherline.
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crazycoyote
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 9:46am |
Agreed, my ball weight is 390 +/- with the same setup, weight done with a Sherline.
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offgrid
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 10:11am |
Yep, its a lever, you have to calculate the moments about the point of rotation, eg, the trailer axle. But nope its not 75%, its 89% for the propane on my 179. The arm (distance to trailer axle) for the hitch on my 179 is 13.1 ft and he propane tank is at 11.7 ft. 11.7/13.1 =0.89 so 40*0.89=35.6 lb.
For the batteries the arm is 10.1 ft and the weight of my 2 GC2's with cable and boxes is 129lbs. 129*10.1/13.1=99 lbs on the tongue. So just those two items add 135 lbs tongue weight.
Don't forget that there are no batteries on the pod in FR's silly empty and tongue weight specs. Also no fluids of any kind, water or propane. Just one empty propane tank.
And 179's are not 177's, the forward water tank and water heater positions are killers for tongue weight on the 179. I'm at 570lbs right now with only one propane tank, loaded and tanked up ready to go. On the 177 if you're carrying water you probably want more tongue weight. I wish I had that problem...
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold
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Craneman
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 12:00pm |
WOW!!!!! What happened to the days when we just filled the propane tank put in the trailer,Hooked it to the tow vehicle and go have fun.?????
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Jo and Gary, 2010-174,2011 F150
Jo and Gary
2010 174
2011 Ford 150
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offgrid
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 12:32pm |
I think two things happened:
1) Expensive gas and lighter vehicles. 2) The RV "lite" trend, which has got way out of hand. Used to be a big ole trailer was a big ole trailer. Now even giant 5ers are marketed as "lite".
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 2:15pm |
Originally posted by Craneman
WOW!!!!! What happened to the days when we just filled the propane tank put in the trailer,Hooked it to the tow vehicle and go have fun.????? |
We have people who try to tow with to little vehicle.
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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150
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OldNeumanntapr
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Posted: 02 Nov 2018 at 2:18pm |
Thanks for all the input, but gee, all I was looking for really was yes or no to the question of safety.
I didn’t know that the gauge was unreliable. Luckily the fridge runs on battery if and when the LPG tank runs dry.
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