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    Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 5:29pm
I have not read all the post and not clear about the towing and suspension? I pull with a Colorado Z71 Off Road with weight and stabilazation. No problem with balance. My Jeep Unlimited with the tow package has no problem but I am close to tow capacity of the vehicle.
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rawest50,

I also have a 2016 Colorado, and there is not one pertinent post with my ability to tow, nice info, and interesting read. Appreciate conversation, end of the day, if vehicle is rated and capable - good to go.
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Originally posted by DavMar

I will have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion in that there is a difference between SumoSprings and airbag suspension systems. SumoSprings are a “passive” system where air bags are “active” suspension system.


If the springs are compressed, and carrying the additional load, there is little difference. What I'm talking about is discussed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZu39pQ8Gg
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Originally posted by GlueGuy


If the springs are compressed, and carrying the additional load, there is little difference. What I'm talking about is discussed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBZu39pQ8Gg


Great video! Thanks for sharing it and its one that I think anyone pulling a trailer should view. I completely agree with the video and your conclusion. If you’re ONLY using an airbag system or a product such as SumoSprings to compensate for trailer weight distribution you will not get the benefits that a good weight distribution hitch (WDH) gives you when towing. Even if you have an additional suspension system improvement such as the airbag or SumoSprings it should not take the place of a WDH so we are in agreement. I too use the Fastway e2 WDH system that also gives me additional anti-sway control which I believe is very important. Any aftermarket shocks, airbag, helper springs, or a product such as SumoSprings should only be used as an additional improvement to your vehicle suspension system and again not as a replacement for the WDH. I think we’ve may have gotten our apples and oranges mixed up on this subject, if so forgive me.
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Posts: 2706 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by DavMar

I think we’ve may have gotten our apples and oranges mixed up on this subject, if so forgive me.
It happens all the time. I misunderstand you, you misunderstand me, or we both misunderstand each other. It will all come out in the wash if we give it enough time and thought.
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Man I didn’t mean to start a s*#t storm. I like the idea of the sumosprings to give the truck less sag when carrying weight in the bed. I would get those and for sure the WDH. Once we get the trailer I will post a pic of how it looks. Should be next week weather permitting. We bought the trailer on the east side of Wolf Creek Pass and we live on the west side and it’s been snowing everyday on the pass. I’d like dry roads when I bring the trailer home. I’ll find out how it all handles over a Pass right out of the shoot.
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Originally posted by Woody.1

Man I didn’t mean to start a s*#t storm. I like the idea of the sumosprings to give the truck less sag when carrying weight in the bed. I would get those and for sure the WDH. Once we get the trailer I will post a pic of how it looks. Should be next week weather permitting. We bought the trailer on the east side of Wolf Creek Pass and we live on the west side and it’s been snowing everyday on the pass. I’d like dry roads when I bring the trailer home. I’ll find out how it all handles over a Pass right out of the shoot.


Fear not you didn't start a sh*t storm, far from it. LOL

Just an open discussion of different opinions, as long as they are respectful nothing wrong with that and I'm sure everyone would agree. Smile
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Posts: 68 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Feb 2018 at 5:03pm
Originally posted by DavMar

 
I went with the Black 47 density SumoSprings, just a few extra bucks over the Blue 40 and I figure the best of both worlds don't need the heavy duty Yellow 54. Been using them for over a year now and pleased with the performance. The only other suspension upgrade I've been thinking about is better shocks.



Thank you much!  One more for you: is your part number 610-47 or 612-47?  (the 612 seems to be the new model redesigned for the 3rd generation Tacoma, I don't know how long they've been available)

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Woody, your topic was really interesting and, far from it being stormy, was really educational.  I for one, had never seen the calculated and measured effect of a WDH and it makes me feel a lot more confident in my decision to have spent the dough on an E2.  Now I understand better why it works so well.

Kudos for bringing up the topic!!
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