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Tars Tarkas ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Jan 2013 Location: Near Nashville Online Status: Offline Posts: 1454 |
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The WDH should get rid of most of any droop if it's installed and adjusted correctly. I'm not an expert by any means, but from what I've gleaned, air bags probably aren't necessary. Try it without for while and add them later if you think you need them. A lot of people with your class tow vehicle don't have air bags or a WDH.
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2706 |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6418 |
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+2 to what TT said. From what I understand, you do NOT want air bag suspension if you are using a WDH. Both of them will reduce the rear end sag, but the air bags would conflict with what the hitch needs to do to transfer weight to the front wheels. Fastway (makers of the e2 hitch) has a video on the differences which may be helpful.
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Woody.1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Location: SW Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
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Thanks for the advice gang.
I’ll pass on the air bags and try it out.
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DavMar ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2017 Location: Lexington, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 592 |
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Take a look at Sumo SuperSrings which replace your stock springs rubber stops. https://www.supersprings.com/products/sumosprings/ I have them installed on my Tacoma run them with a WDH and am happy with the results. I also load my bed of the truck with coolers, storage chest and such. Never had any problem with overheating with running in the mountains that some with older trucks have experienced. If by chance you do look into added radiator or transmission cooler. |
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Hayduke ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2012 Location: Salt Lake, UT Online Status: Offline Posts: 68 |
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Hey Dave, Which model of sumosprings are you using? I'm planning on installing some this spring, and appreciate any feedback you've got. |
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DavMar ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2017 Location: Lexington, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 592 |
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[/QUOTE] Hey Dave, Which model of sumosprings are you using? I'm planning on installing some this spring, and appreciate any feedback you've got. [/QUOTE] I went with the Black 47 density SumoSprings, just a few extra bucks over the Blue 40 and I figure the best of both worlds don't need the heavy duty Yellow 54. Been using them for over a year now and pleased with the performance. The only other suspension upgrade I've been thinking about is better shocks. |
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Woody.1 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 16 Feb 2018 Location: SW Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 31 |
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will look into these.
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2706 |
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Super springs or Sumo springs are no different in their dynamics than air bags. You would still have better vehicle/trailer dynamics with a WDH instead of any of those.
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DavMar ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Aug 2017 Location: Lexington, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 592 |
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I will have to respectfully disagree with your conclusion in that there is a difference between SumoSprings and airbag suspension systems. SumoSprings are a “passive” system where air bags are “active” suspension system. In all airbags you have compressed air inside which uses some type of bladder system. They work great as long as they are always maintained, correct pressure and such, and never have a puncture. Where as SumoSprings are made out of a type of foam which requires no maintenance and no worries about leaking from punctures. Unlike airbags SumoSprings, which replace your leaf springs rubber bump stops, only exert full compression under heavy load. The SumoSprings are used to help stabilize and support your load which can only help not hinder when using a WDH. In no way have I found them negatively effecting the suspension stabilization but only improving it which is what your after by also using a WDH. If you believe something like SumoSprings or airbag suspension systems don’t work when you use a WDH. Then I suggest that after you do a long haul with your camper reach under your rear wheel fender opening and grab your shock and I’ll bet you’ll find it quite warm to say the least. Its why many people upgrade their shocks or suspension systems using products like SumoSprings or airbags with or without WDH when they are pulling a trailer or hauling heavy loads. If you still don’t think either suspension systems work then I ask you why do you think tractor trailer trucks use airbag systems? If that doesn’t convince you well to each their own more power to you brother. |
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