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    Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by SteveA

Just a heads up Linda, my wife and I spent some time in Big Bend a few years back and some of the state campgrounds had a no generator policy. Apparently the area is big on bird watching and complete silence was a big deal.    

Just glue a bunch of feathers all over the generators, and nobody will know  heh

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 7:38pm
We have a Yamaha 2400iSCH, which is big enough to run the air conditioner, or the microwave, but not at the same time.  It's gas operated.  The reason I chose it is because of it's decibel level.  I don't remember what that is, but it's one of the lowest you can find.

We've been to Big Bend twice, both around Christmas/New Years, but not with the pod.  We tent camped.  I would definitely check the generator policy.  We stayed at Rio Grande campground one night because Chisos Basin was full, but all the rest of the time we were in the Basin.  BiBe is one of the best places we've ever been.  The Chihuahuan Desert is ceaselessly spectacular.  There are all kinds of back roads, and we've covered most of them.  They are all great.  Almost all of them are okay for 2WD vehicles with high ground clearance.  Check with a ranger before heading out though, and 4WD is preferred.

I do recall generators on a drive through at the Cottonwood campground, and I want to say they have limited hookups at Rio Grande, but check.  There are plenty of campgrounds outside the NP too.

One of the most beautiful paved roads in the country is between Lajitas and Presidio.  It's an easy day's drive there and back from the NP, with lunch in Presidio or Ojinga.

I don't know about the Guadalupes, but I recommend taking the river road to Presidio, then up to Marfa, to get there, even if it's a little out of the way.  I'll bet you'll hate leaving BiBe.

Back to the generator, I'd think carefully about going with propane.  There are some that run on gas or propane, and that might be the way to go if you're set on propane.  The electrical output of the dual power generators is lower on propane than on gas though.  And it's generally a lot easier to find gasoline than propane.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 7:39pm
Originally posted by Luv2travel

Hi Olddawgsrule:  We personally want propane since we have a 100 gallon propane tank buried in our yard at home.  Hopefully we can dual purpose the generator as a home back up.  The only disadvantage I see to the Champion recommended is weight; other than that it looks great.  My friend has two 2000watt generators because a single generator is too heavy for her to lift.  I may have to go that route also.  We have friends with Honda and Generac and both are happy with their generators.

Even though the Honda EU2000i is quieter than the Champion generators (both their 2 kW and the 3.4 kW models), two of them working in parallel will probably produce at least the same noise as the Champion 3.4 kW as sound levels are cumulative.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both.  Hondas and Yamahas (equivalent in my experience and many others as well) are the highest quality out there, and it's fairly easy to find someone to repair them in the unlikely event that's necessary.  They are also quieter than other generators of the same type and wattage rating.  I personally own a Yamaha 2400 iSHC.

That being said, I think that you are definitely paying a big price premium for that quality.  From all of the reviews I've heard, Champion is probably the best overall value right now for the money involved, especially when you can get them on sale, which is pretty rare for Honda and Yamaha.  For Black Friday weekend, several retailers were selling the Champion 2 kW inverter generators, which can be tied together to double their output, for just $399.  That's less than half the price of just one Honda or Yamaha of the same rating.

To be honest, if something happened to my Yamaha, which I have really enjoyed, I would probably get either two Champion 2 kW generators with a parallel kit, the 3.1 kW gas generator, or the 3.4 kW dual fuel generator.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 7:51pm
Just my opinion: quiet is worth the price premium.  If I were getting a generator for home or job use, a Champion would probably be the way to go, but for camping, for my own peace and quiet, as well as those around me, I like quiet.  I can tell you from hard experience, even the Yamaha makes too much noise for a lot of campers.  All that said, I'm under the impression that many of the smaller inverter generators from Champion and others may be quieter than they used to be.  It also seems to be getting harder to find the manufacturers' dB ratings.  They are usually discoverable, but sometimes you really have to dig to get that info.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 9:56pm
WE are heading for Big Bend National Park on the 19th of Dec. coming from Arizona for a week or two. Maybe I'll see a few Pods  in the Park. There is a bird count on Christmas Day, and we are birders.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Dec 2017 at 10:19pm
Originally posted by Tars Tarkas

We have a Yamaha 2400iSCH, which is big enough to run the air conditioner, or the microwave, but not at the same time.  It's gas operated.  The reason I chose it is because of it's decibel level.  I don't remember what that is, but it's one of the lowest you can find.

I have the same generator and have really enjoyed it.  The only generator I'm aware of that's quieter than it and will run the AC is the Honda EU3000iS.  As far as I know, that Honda model is still the quietest portable generator on the market of literally any size.  Some here have specifically elected to go with it due to that reason.  The catches are its 131 lb. weight and $2,000 price tag.  It's only real advantage over dual 2 kW generators is its very low noise level, especially at low loads.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 9:41am
To me, Honda is not always the answer to generators. I bought the Predator 3500 inverter Generator at Harbor Freight last month  for $649.00, they are now at $699.I have also a Honda 2000i which will NOT run my A/C in my Pod, but for another $1000 I could of bought another Honda to run it. 2 generators  to carry around, to heavy for me. My Predator runs everything in my Pod. I don't even have to start it with a cord. Push button start. I put the both generators side by side and run them- MY HONDA is louder, I couldn't believe it, but that is a fact. Those Predator Generators 3500 are quite I would check them out before spending another $1000 to power up your a/c in your pod.My Predator 3500 is 98 pounds and has wheels for rolling. It now goes in back of the truck when I'm pulling the Pod
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 9:53am
Originally posted by crazycoyote

To me, Honda is not always the answer to generators. I bought the Predator 3500 inverter Generator at Harbor Freight last month  for $649.00, they are now at $699.I have also a Honda 2000i which will NOT run my A/C in my Pod, but for another $1000 I could of bought another Honda to run it. 2 generators  to carry around, to heavy for me. My Predator runs everything in my Pod. I don't even have to start it with a cord. Push button start. I put the both generators side by side and run them- MY HONDA is louder, I couldn't believe it, but that is a fact. Those Predator Generators 3500 are quite I would check them out before spending another $1000 to power up your a/c in your pod.My Predator 3500 is 98 pounds and has wheels for rolling. It now goes in back of the truck when I'm pulling the Pod

Thanks for the review!  The only inverter generator I've ever heard of being quieter than the Honda EU2000i was the EU3000i.  It's amazing for a Harbor Freight generator to be even quieter.  The reviews on HF's website are extremely solid as well.  I'm honestly shocked.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 10:26am
I wonder what people do in those parks in the Big Bend area when it's 100 degrees outside. Unless they have hookups to run air conditioning, not being able to run a generator is a serious health hazard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Dec 2017 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by TheBum

I wonder what people do in those parks in the Big Bend area when it's 100 degrees outside. Unless they have hookups to run air conditioning, not being able to run a generator is a serious health hazard.

There are still some options.  Shade cloth isn't very expensive and dramatically helps with the heat; I've seen people completely cover their rig with it, leaving some air gap at the top.

Small humidifiers do exactly the same job that evaporative coolers do and use far less power than an AC.  The air blowing off of them feels very cool in a dry climate.

You can also still make ice with your Pod's refrigerator running on propane.  This ice can go in your drinks (very good way to stay cool) or can be used to chill water that you can then rub on your skin with a towel.  Blowing a fan over a bowl of ice can be done but is a very poor way of cooling yourself off; the above methods are far better.

Don't forget about a good, old-fashioned fan.

And to be honest, if I knew I would be camping regularly in very hot places, I'd invest in a Honda EU3000iS that is extremely quiet.  The worst they can do is ask you to turn it off.
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