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jato
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Topic: Well, I did it. Posted: 09 Nov 2017 at 7:51pm |
Fantastic work Marwayne! Very much tempted to copy your masterpiece.
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voisj
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 8:56am |
Marwayne, Thanks for the pictures and help. This should be fun and it's such a great idea! Your heater core looks like 12" x 8" ? I found this 12 x 8 on ebay for $36 and it's on it's way, and I Have the other parts already. Still noodling out how to power the pump and fans with a thermostat, does the thermostat send good 12v to the pump and fans or did you use a relay? Thanks again, John
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marwayne
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 11:46am |
My heater core is about 8" x !4", I have a fan on either side. The air duct is under the heater core, the air pressures meet in the middle under the heater core being pushed up and than out. I also tried a heater core like yours, however it needed a powerful fan to push the air through the tiny openings of the heater core. That is why I built my own, the fins are far enough apart for the free flow of air being pushed by the fans. I just wired it up direct , no relay switch.
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voisj
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Posted: 26 Nov 2017 at 11:52am |
Marwayne, Thanks for the info! I finally put it all together and it works very well. I used an 8 x 8 heater core and a 3 speed 8" computer fan that blows the air from the back side. I hooked a switch up that allows me to use either the new exchanger/fan or the regular furnace on the original thermostat. It's just temped in, (not pretty yet), until I can test it for real, It's been 80 degrees the last 5 days and 60 at night, not the best for testing. Thanks again, John
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marwayne
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Posted: 26 Nov 2017 at 7:09pm |
Well you did it. congrats
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MIK
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Posted: 20 Oct 2018 at 9:28pm |
Originally posted by voisj
Marwayne,Thanks for the info! I finally put it all together and it works very well. I used an 8 x 8 heater core and a 3 speed 8" computer fan that blows the air from the back side. I hooked a switch up that allows me to use either the new exchanger/fan or the regular furnace on the original thermostat. It's just temped in, (not pretty yet), until I can test it for real, It's been 80 degrees the last 5 days and 60 at night, not the best for testing. Thanks again, John
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Hi voisj, do you have the parts list you used for this project?
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voisj
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Posted: 22 Oct 2018 at 9:50pm |
MIK, Bought the main items from EBAY. I used a three speed fan so it could be quieter if necessary, (was not necessary as these things are really quiet.) Home depot 1/2" pex tubing 2 - 10' pieces. sharkbite tee fitting - 2 sharkbite 1/2" valves - 2 sharkbite (1/2") to male thread fittings - 4 (2 for pump and 2 for heat exchanger) copper 1" to 1/2" female reducer fittings -2 ( soldered to the heat exchanger pipes, had 1" copper in/out). 24 x24 sheet of tin (to box in heat exchanger). $12 cheap thermostat heat wrap. Thats it. I was going for a simple system. Return air comes in through the existing furnace return air holes. I drew from the cold line into the WH as I always had air in the top of the tank and this solved the crazy pump/gurgling sound problem. I found full time 12v power at the furnace. I put a shut off on both the in and out. (after these pics) I needed a shutoff for the in side because convection kept the water moving if I didn't. The out side was just so I could isolate the system for repairs or whatever. It's still operating perfect i'm told in Santa Barbara they never even use the furnace. But then it's never really cold there. Third picture. I used a scrap piece of 1/4"plywood to replace the veneer for the new panel in case I needed to go back to stock. Turns out Rustoleum hammered bronze spray paint matched perfect. And you can see the valve I used to shut off convection flow. You need this, My wife made me shut it off when she showered because it messed with the hot water SOMETIMES,(never happened to me) you could just add a check valve on the cold line and it would solve this. Hit the SLOPODMODS link by my signature, about halfway down the page 1 is a video link.
Any more questions, let me know. rgds John
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offgrid
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 7:49am |
Voisj, very nice work.
Looks like you put the heat exchanger link in twice instead of the water pump link?
The heat exchanger looks like it should have plenty of capacity (its rated for 40kbtu/hr vs the water heater at 12k) but I'm wondering how well the computer fan did for you pushing air through the fins? Usually heat exchangers go in ducts with squirrel cage blowers that can handle a lot of back pressure.
Thanks!
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voisj
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 9:51am |
offgrid, Thanks,fixed the link. I feel it worked fine, it is only a computer fan so it wont heat it up from cold to 60 fast at all. But a good amount of air blows out of the grill, the fan specs claim 135 cfm. We use the furnace to bump it up in the morning or to warm it up fast after being out. This unit kept the pod near 60 at 37 degrees one night and it ran all night. SO much better than the loud furnace going off and on Marwayne used a modified baseboard heater so it would not restrict the flow as much, this would work better in a colder climate, most places we camp rarely get below the mid 40's at night. Cheers John
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offgrid
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 11:10am |
Thanks voisj,
I think you're right, that pump looks like its sized about right, the fan is probably the limiting factor. Maybe a second fan, one pushing and one pulling, would be worth adding if someone wanted to be able to use this as the main heat source in colder weather.
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1994 Chinook Concourse
1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft
2015 Rpod 179 - sold
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