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outermostpod
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Topic: Jeep towing discussion from Intro > Pics thread Posted: 29 Apr 2014 at 8:42am |
I didn't trust the dealer's knowledge so before I bought I ran the VIN through this website : http://www.compnine.com/vid.php
It's not free, but it will give you a very detailed build sheet for your exact Jeep.
If you don't have 3.73 gears as the manual states you should, I would ask to see a copy of that letter that you mentioned, and then, ask for a refund.
You bought the Jeep with the intent to tow 3,500 lbs and were told that your purchase could do that.
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m6805
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Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 9:31pm |
Your Jeep tow capacity is directly related to you rear differential gears.
If you have a 3.73 or 4.10 rear end your tow capacity is usually
3500 lbs
If you have 3.23/3.21 rear end your tow capacity is usually limited to
2000 ibs, or less.
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Kermit
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Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 9:25pm |
On the topic of gear ratios. Starting with 2012 models, the rubicon package does not guarantee the 4.10 axle ratio. Have re-geared several at work with 3.21 gears. A lot of people don't realize this and question why the jeeps feel so underpowered with the addition of only one to two size larger tires over stock.
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'14 182g
Towed by various Jeeps
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Chukar
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Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 5:39pm |
Mine is automatic. This is the ironic part. My manual states 3.73 and 3,500 lbs for my particular model. The service manager told me this was a typo from Jeep and that they received a letter from Chrysler stating this. The manual should have said 3.21 and 2,000 lbs. I am thinking of going back to the dealer I bought it from and demand a replacement or my money back. This should be an interesting topic if it ever reached the media and there are thousands of jeep owners with the same issue.
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outermostpod
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Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 4:35pm |
are you SURE your Unlimited Sahara has a 3.21 axle? I thought all Saharas had the 3.73 which mine also has (2009 JKU Sahara). Do you have a manual or auto? I'm pretty sure all JKU Sahara autos have 3.73. The Jeep is adequate for towing the rpod but not spectacular. We didn't sell our Jeep because I couldn't part with it - so now it's a fun car. You might want to run your VIN through a VIN-checker website or have Jeep send you your build sheet to confirm that you have 3.21.
I would recommend against towing the rpod if you have 3.21 - your tranny will get really hot and you also will have zero pulling power off the line. Not to mention that if you get in an accident your insurance will not cover you since you were pulling way over your limit - despite what your service manager told you.
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Chukar
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Posted: 28 Apr 2014 at 2:08pm |
Looks awesome!! We plan to do most of our trips with our Dodge Durango but once in a while I would like to take our Jeep. My biggest dissapointmant was when the dealer confirmed that our model (2012 Wrangler Unlimited Sahara) has a towing capacity of a measly 2,000 lbs. vs other exact same vehicle with a different axle ratio. The service manager did confirm that as long as I "take it easy" I should not have any problems at all. The other dissapointment is that when we bought our jeep back in 2012 the salesman assured us the Sahara model towing limit was 3,500 lbs. Oh well. The positive is we are picking up our 182g in2 weeks!! And guess what, it's a 2015 model. Whatever that means, it was still built in 2014. Will post some pictures when we adventure out in southern British Columbia!!
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Hairy Podders
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Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 12:52pm |
We are going to test the towing ability(not capacity) of our Jeep this summer. We are headed to Colorado for 2 weeks. I don't feel the need to be the first one to the summit of Monarch Pass. Or Wolf Creek Pass. Or any of the other passes that we will cross. Though my buddy with his '82 Jeep Scrambler towing a '74 Scotty camper & I are gonna "dragrace" to the top of Monarch. Its gonna be a slow race.
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Darryl, Julie & Lindsey
Cooper & Libby- Devoted Canines
2014 RP178
2006 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
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THEDragonTJH
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Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 12:03pm |
Originally posted by Hairy Podders
The reason that I tow our Pod with a Wrangler Unlimited? You ever try to go off road trail riding in a Sienna minivan? We enjoy a different lifestyle than the "normal" camping enthusiast. Even a pickup truck isn't going to be comfortable on the trails that we travel on. The Pod doesn't go on anything beyond graded gravel roads.
If this wouldn't work out, the next step would be a motorhome to tow the Wrangler.... |
This is me too, the purchase of the Pod was a direct result of getting the Jeep and getting involved in wheeling. Without my Jeep I wouldn't have need for the Pod.
I am pretty comfortable towing mine with my Jeep, I haven't taken on any mountain passes yet, but that might come this year. Take it a little slower than normal and you're fine. I also tend to do Highway driving rather than interstate,added bonus is it makes for a more interesting trip too.
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Jared & Jenny
Teagan, Ruby (Kids), Ozzie, Louie and Stella (Dogs)
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Hairy Podders
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Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 7:43am |
The reason that I tow our Pod with a Wrangler Unlimited? You ever try to go off road trail riding in a Sienna minivan? We enjoy a different lifestyle than the "normal" camping enthusiast. Even a pickup truck isn't going to be comfortable on the trails that we travel on. The Pod doesn't go on anything beyond graded gravel roads.
If this wouldn't work out, the next step would be a motorhome to tow the Wrangler....
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Darryl, Julie & Lindsey
Cooper & Libby- Devoted Canines
2014 RP178
2006 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
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Hairy Podders
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Posted: 27 Apr 2014 at 7:38am |
Go to www.rubiconownersforum.com. Lots of good info there. My Wrangler Unlimited has the Rubicon package. Which gives me 4.10-1 axle ratios. With the larger tires that I put on the Jeep, I kinda wish that it had 4.56-1 ratios. That said, in '06 all 2 door Unlimited Wranglers had 3500 lb. tow rating.
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Darryl, Julie & Lindsey
Cooper & Libby- Devoted Canines
2014 RP178
2006 Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon
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