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Dirt Sifter
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Topic: The 195 concerns Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 4:34pm |
We use a friction sway control with the single axle on our 179. Backing is not an issue as long as the angles are reasonable. Were used to the dual axle TT's before with Equalizer 4 so want to know there is some stability back there. Now we have to remember it is back there. Love the R.Pod's convenient size and features.
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GlueGuy
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Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 3:07pm |
Originally posted by ArenaBlanca
The one thing I noticed is backing up a 5th wheel is much different than backing the R-pod. I think it has to do with the hitch point as well as the difference in the wheelbases. |
That is the big difference. With a conventional ball hitch at the rear bumper, you have to deal with the initial "turning the wrong way" issue. When you turn the TV right, the trailer will go left. After you get the turn started, you need to follow through with the reverse direction action in mind.
With a 5th wheel, the pivot point is generally right above the rear axle (or close to it). Because of this the reverse reaction is way less, and it the trailer will tend to react to your steering inputs with substantially less over-reaction.
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ArenaBlanca
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Posted: 31 Mar 2019 at 11:17am |
I got my diesel tow vehicle when we had a 5th wheel also. Got rid of the 5th wheel, but you don't get rid of a good truck. The one thing I noticed is backing up a 5th wheel is much different than backing the R-pod. I think it has to do with the hitch point as well as the difference in the wheelbases.
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GlueGuy
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 3:45pm |
Originally posted by AgedWhine
Thanks Now I have to go do my research. Because of mostly using a fifth wheel towing setup, I got to relearn towing. As they say in doing internet research you have kept me from going down to many rabbit holes. |
If you were pulling a 5th wheel, it sounds like your GMC is either a 3/4 ton (2500) or a 1 ton (3500)? That vehicle should be a cakewalk with any R-pod, including the 195. If you're really concerned, you could add on an anti sway bar or an anti sway WDH, but I'd suggest you ought to just try it.
We have pulled our 179 both with and without the WDH (we have an E2). It pulls either way just fine, but I prefer the overall ride better with the WDH. It "feels" like we have a longer wheelbase on the entire rig.
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bp
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mjlrpod
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 3:16pm |
I am super excited to see a 195. I already told the wife imma gittin me one o them thar things. Just to clear the path. But i'm not positive i am until i see one in person. I would love some feedback from people when they get it.
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lostagain
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 10:17am |
Welcome to the forum. We're all curious about how you like the 195 so be sure to give us regular reports.
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 9:55am |
Welcome and enjoy.
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AgedWhine
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 9:41am |
Thanks Now I have to go do my research. Because of mostly using a fifth wheel towing setup, I got to relearn towing. As they say in doing internet research you have kept me from going down to many rabbit holes.
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Billy Bob
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 9:39am |
This is the weight distribution anti sway I bought...works great and hard to tell the RPOD is behind me.
https://www.etrailer.com/Weight-Distribution/Equal-i-zer/EQ37061ET.html
welcome to the forum...full of any information you need.....195 looks great so far...need to see it in person.
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offgrid
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Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 9:35am |
As StephenH says you don't need weight distibution with that rig!
The old rule of thumb to keep the tongue weight at least 10% of the total trailer weight to eliminate sway tendency is pretty accurate for rPods. There have been cases of sway getting out of control with lighter tongue weights than that range. So, I suggest loading up an weighing the trailer and tongue so you know what you really have. Personally, I won't go below 11%. On the 195 like on my 179 the lightest tongue weight will probably occur when you have full water in the gray tank but none in the fresh tank.
Then add the suspenders to the belt. The friction based sway control on some of the combined wdh/sway control hitches won't work without the wdh tensioned, which you don't need. So, as StephenH says, one of the electronic sway control systems might be the best for you.
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