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    Posted: 25 Mar 2019 at 8:58am
No wheel clearance issues, and yes I have the risers. FWIW, the trailer also looks much better balanced with the bigger wheels on it.
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Originally posted by offgrid


I'm under the impression that the torsion axle start angle change (aka clocking) doesn't quite give you the same height as the riser kit, but I might be wrong. 
My suggestion is to measure as GlueGuy says and then get the LRD one with the highest load rating that you have clearance for  Since you're getting new wheels too be sure to check the load rating on those, you're only as good as your weakest link. I got these, both tires and wheels rated for 2540 lbs. It also saves the mounting cost. 



Are you having any wheel well clearance issues with that tire? That was my biggest concern .
Do you have risers on yours or not. That is the set up I was wanting to order.

Oh by the way I attempted to measure my wheel well clearance last night with a steel tape I had handy. Clearance with the 205/75x14 was approx. 3.25 - 3.5 inches.
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I'm under the impression that the torsion axle start angle change (aka clocking) doesn't quite give you the same height as the riser kit, but I might be wrong. 

My suggestion is to measure as GlueGuy says and then get the LRD one with the highest load rating that you have clearance for  Since you're getting new wheels too be sure to check the load rating on those, you're only as good as your weakest link. I got these, both tires and wheels rated for 2540 lbs. It also saves the mounting cost. 
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Posts: 2702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2019 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by TearlessTom

Okay guys I've done a lot more reading and research and crawling under the Pod etc.

I have found that they changed the axle "clocking" a year or two prior to my 2017 being made. To verify my axle is "clocked" at about the 4:00 - 4:30 position so it is already raised a bit vs prior years that as I understand it the risers were made for.

So from what I've read Risers are not needed for my Pod because of the axle clocking.

Is this correct?
I think that's correct. Our 2017 HRE does not have the risers.

Originally posted by TearlessTom

Also, I still want to change to the 15 inch tire for peace of mind with an increased load rating and speed rating. Not planning on over loading or speeding but I do like the idea of the added safety margin that they give.

I know I need to measure the wheel well clearance but haven't thought of it when I had a tape measure in my hand.


Most suggest the 205/75/15   is the 225/75/15 too much of a increase in height and width over the 205/75/14 which I have on now?????

205/75/14   =   26.1 height   8.1 width
205/75/15   =   27.1 height   8.1 width
225/75/15   =   28.3 height   8.9 width.
The difference in radius of the 205/75/14 and the 205/75/15 is a half inch. I would measure the amount of space you have between the smaller tire and decide if you could tolerate a half inch less of it.
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Okay guys I've done a lot more reading and research and crawling under the Pod etc.

I have found that they changed the axle "clocking" a year or two prior to my 2017 being made. To verify my axle is "clocked" at about the 4:00 - 4:30 position so it is already raised a bit vs prior years that as I understand it the risers were made for.

So from what I've read Risers are not needed for my Pod because of the axle clocking.

Is this correct?

Also, I still want to change to the 15 inch tire for peace of mind with an increased load rating and speed rating. Not planning on over loading or speeding but I do like the idea of the added safety margin that they give.

I know I need to measure the wheel well clearance but haven't thought of it when I had a tape measure in my hand.


Most suggest the 205/75/15   is the 225/75/15 too much of a increase in height and width over the 205/75/14 which I have on now?????

205/75/14   =   26.1 height   8.1 width
205/75/15   =   27.1 height   8.1 width
225/75/15   =   28.3 height   8.9 width.
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Right. Except that both trucks say "Ford F-150" in their names, there are numerous differences. Ours is an HRE RP-179 (higher stance) with 15" tires (another 1/2"higher).

Our F-150 is the 2015 "all aluminum" one, plus 4WD, plus the extended 157" wheelbase; all of which make it taller.

None-the-less, the basic rules for setting up the WDH still hold.
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Perhaps a bit off topic Tearless Tom but if you don't have the axle riser kit on your rPod you might want to consider adding it, seems like most folks on the forum including me tend to feel that the standard East/Midwest rPods have inadequate ground clearance. 
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Originally posted by offgrid

Glad it’s worked out for you Tearless Tom. One reason for the setup difference might be trailer wheel size and ride height. Maybe I missed it but what wheels and lift setup do you have? If normal for the Midwest/East you will be sitting a little lower than GlueGuy.




I'm sure that is it. He runs 15 inch tires as I have 14. He has a 2015 4WD truck mine is a 2014 2 wheel.

The 2015 is a lighter truck in the rear end and the 4wd normally have a bit higher stance so it is only logical that with those minor differences it will give us different settings.
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And if you move the brackets too far back, the bars will not be long enough in some sharp turns, leading to them becoming disengaged from the L brackets.  
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The further aft the brackets are the longer the distance is from the bracket to the ball. That should increase the moment (torque) the bars are putting on the rig trying to fold it up around the ball, which increases the weight being redistributed.
Since the torque is force x distance, if you move the brackets aft and at the same time lower them to reduce the force pulling up on the bars, you end up with the same amount of weight distributed.
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