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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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Yes, it is amazing what a difference a well-set-up WDH can make, especially if it also has sway control, whether integrated or add-on.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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GlueGuy ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 2017 Location: N. California Online Status: Offline Posts: 2702 |
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We recently got a reminder of why we use a WDH.
We were evacuated from our home when one of the big fires started in California. We had everything packed, and part of our belongings we wanted to take with us was our RP-179. Seeing that we were getting underway at 3AM, and we have an F-150, which can pull the 179 with no control issues whatever, I decided I would skip the WDH setup. As we proceeded down the highway, I noticed two things. First, the headlights were just a bit too high. Just high enough that the low beams would shine right into the windshield of anyone coming the other way. Not a good thing. The second thing I noticed was that all the bumps and dips were exaggerated. After we got to our first stop (what we affectionately referred to as "Chateau de CVS"), we got a few hours of rest, and before we left, I hooked up the WDH bars. The rest of our escape to safety was uneventful. |
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2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River 2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost |
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Sailor Pod ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2018 Location: Michigan Online Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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We use a husky centerline WD hitch and sway bars on our R-Pod 190. Works great. 600lbs. We tow with our diesel jeep grand cherokee, which also tows the pod very well. We just put on 5000 miles going to Seattle and back. Trip was outstanding.
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Blue Ridge ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Sep 2019 Location: NOVA Online Status: Offline Posts: 7 |
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I use a fastway e2 600/6000 square bar, no complaints so far.
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offgrid ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 2018 Online Status: Offline Posts: 5290 |
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Is that 270 tongue weight an actual measured value for a loaded trailer? Seems very low.. FR specs say an unloaded dry 178 is 295 on the hitch and 2893 total. That's with no battery, water in the water heater, or any of the tanks...If it really is that low then you'll also want your total trailer weight not to exceed 2700 lbs to avoid sway. If you are Ok you will be very close, so check all your actual loaded weights against your Jeep specs (trailer, tongue, combined gross vehicle weight, and axle weights). When you run through the scales disconnect or de-tension the weight distribution hitch, it will throw off your weight measurements. Here's a nice calculator to load all your data into and see where you are. . |
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1995 RV6A Experimental Aircraft 2015 Rpod 179 - sold |
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StephenH ![]() podders Helping podders - pHp ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Nov 2015 Location: Wake Forest, NC Online Status: Offline Posts: 6417 |
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I say this to say that you will want to be careful with that Jeep. Its high center of gravity and short wheelbase (relatively so) means that any issue with trailer sway could get out of control faster than you can imagine. If you do not already have a lot of experience towing, I would recommend that in addition to the Andersen hitch, you look into one of the electronic sway control devices such as the Hayes Sway-Master, the Tuson Sway Control, or Lippert Sway Command. It will be able to react to conditions faster than you can and help prevent a potential sway situation from getting out of hand. I would recommend one of these, especially if someone has a vehicle that he/she thinks does not need a WD/sway control hitch.
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StephenH
Happy is the man that findeth wisdom,... ouR escaPOD mods Former RPod 179 Current Cherokee Grey Wolf 24 JS |
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alohapad ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Feb 2020 Location: Canton MI Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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Can see that everybody has a favorite, and I'm HOPING I made the right choice for my needs, but I picked the Anderson 3324 Sway WDH. It's kinda pricey ($499), but it's under 60lbs, and looks to be the bee's knees. My Jeep is rated 350/3500, and the 178 is at about 270 on the hitch, so my math says I snuck in just below. No lift kit, running 33's, so hoping the height is gonna be OK too.
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TheBum ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 2016 Location: Texas Online Status: Offline Posts: 1407 |
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We use the round bar version of the E2 with our 179 and Durango. The Durango has load leveling shocks on the back, but the ride is much smoother and more controlled with the WDH. The WDH reduces bounce at the coupler as well as providing better traction for steering.
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Alan
2022 R-Pod 196 "RaptoRPod" 2022 Ram 1500 Lone Star 4x4 Three cats |
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CharlieM ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2012 Location: N. Colorado Online Status: Offline Posts: 1797 |
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One additional point. There is a difference between "need WDH" and want WDH". Needing a WDH for safety reasons is a much debated subject involving weight of TT, weight of TV, location of hitch, wheelbases and trailer loading. This may explain the E-trailer response, particularly since the advertised weight of Rpods is grossly understated. However, you definitely will want the WDH. A properly installed and adjusted WDH will greatly improve the ride and feel of the rig. In addition to returning weight to the front axle it almost eliminates porpoising. Bounce up and down? Yes; that's the road and you can't do much about that. Feel like you're on a rocking horse? Not with the WDH. Great for relieving stress and calming your co-pilot.
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Northern Colorado OLD: 2013 RP-172, 2010 Honda Pilot 3.5L 4WD PRESENT: 2014 Camplite 21RBS, 2013 Supercharged Tacoma 4L V6 4WD |
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Wirat ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Jan 2020 Location: Florida Online Status: Offline Posts: 67 |
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Yeah and it seems from conversations here that WDHs DO make a big difference even on a lighter trailer, so I don't know why the Etrailer guy was so adamant about not needing one under 7k. He must not have had his coffee yet...
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