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Keith-N-Dar
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Topic: Hello from Colorful CO Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 6:43pm |
Old habits are hard to break.
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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150
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mcarter
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Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 6:21pm |
+1, to me it is like the old philosophy of putting your spare batts in a fridge. Old school.
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Mike Carter
2015 178
" I had the right to remain silent, I just didn't have the ability."
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jato
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Location: Kewadin, MI
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Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 5:39pm |
Furpod got me up to speed on this issue about 5 years ago. He told me that batteries that were made in the 1950's and earlier were not produced with a plastic enclosure; hence by putting that on concrete the battery would slowly discharge.
I have been doing this with my batteries since winter of 2011, they are nearly 7 years old and it seems as though they are good for at least another year; time will tell.
Ahh, Colorado, we just returned from a 2 week trip out there recently (2 weeks is NOT enough). Plan on returning in 2019. YES, YES, Black Canyon of the Gunnison is a must see, as impressive as the Grand Canyon IMHO, reminds me a lot of the North Rim of the Grand Canyon, but even more impressive.
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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."
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Keith-N-Dar
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Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 10:47am |
Originally posted by GlueGuy
Originally posted by jato
Lastly I pull out both our 12v deep cycle group 24 batteries and place on the cement floor in our unheated garage. I will give each a 2 amp trickle charge, this will take about 1 day / battery to bring to full charge. | I don't know if it's an issue or not, but I have read in various places that it's not a good idea to store lead acid batteries on concrete; especially in a climate where it's below freezing temperature. Based on this, I never put the batteries directly on the concrete, but put a block of wood (like a piece of 2x6) under each battery under my workbench. |
That was my understanding years ago also. I think it is OK now with the plastic cases but I can't bring myself to put them on concrete either.
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Keith-N-Dar
Boris & Betty (Boston Terriers)
2011 R-Pod 177
2010 Ford F-150
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GlueGuy
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Posted: 02 Oct 2017 at 9:56am |
Originally posted by jato
Lastly I pull out both our 12v deep cycle group 24 batteries and place on the cement floor in our unheated garage. I will give each a 2 amp trickle charge, this will take about 1 day / battery to bring to full charge. |
I don't know if it's an issue or not, but I have read in various places that it's not a good idea to store lead acid batteries on concrete; especially in a climate where it's below freezing temperature. Based on this, I never put the batteries directly on the concrete, but put a block of wood (like a piece of 2x6) under each battery under my workbench.
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bp
2017 R-Pod 179 Hood River
2015 Ford F150 SuperCrew 4WD 3.5L Ecoboost
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RayS58
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 8:35pm |
I will add that when I finally got to the water pump and HWH, I discovered a bypass line with no bypass valve. 😖😮🤔. I know a little about piping configurations since I've been in power plant operations for 33 years. I also learned that Home Depot, Ace and Walmart are limited on RV plumbing parts and Canping Workd is closed on Sunday. Dang! It'll wait a day.
Thanks again!
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Ray & Nancy
2017 R-Pod 179
2017 Tundra
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RayS58
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 8:20pm |
Southwest CO is "the bomb." I hope you haven't missed Mesa Verde and Black Canyon is a quiet gem. If you ever want to stray from your routine, I'm quite familiar with southern WY especially the Snowy Range and Platte Valley. The Snowys are like a mini RMNP but empty. Looks very uninteresting as you might cruise past Laramie on I-80. My escape from Front Range chaos.
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Ray & Nancy
2017 R-Pod 179
2017 Tundra
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jato
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 7:29pm |
Appreciate the comments on air pressure. That being said, I make sure 1 line is always open so that you don't get a huge buildup of air pressure in the line, and causing a potential problem! My neighbor uses 90 PSI in his 5th wheel when he winterizes but always keeps a line open. He told me a couple days ago: "I've been doing it this way for over 25 years and have never had a problem." I tend to be a bit more cautious than my neighbor and the end result has been the same, no problems. I did forget to mention that (like Stephen H posted) I also put a little bit of rv antifreeze in the toilet bowl to keep the seals wet and lubricated.
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God's pod
'11 model 177
'17 Ford F-150 4WD 3.5 Ecoboost
Jim and Diane by beautiful Torch Lake
"...and you will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free."
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RayS58
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 10:08am |
Thank you for all of the helpful advice. Bottom line is leave some A/F treated water in the tanks lines and traps and this makes total sense. Thanks all! I'm sure you probably haven't heard the end of me.
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Ray & Nancy
2017 R-Pod 179
2017 Tundra
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Tars Tarkas
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Posted: 01 Oct 2017 at 7:52am |
Two years ago I just blew out the lines and I ended up having to replace the toilet valve, which developed a hairline crack and sprayed a fine mist on the wall behind the toilet when I dewinterized. It only cost about $30 for the parts and I fixed it myself, but it wasn't the way I wanted to spend a Saturday morning.
What happend to me may have been a fluke, but antifreeze isn't expensive. When I dewinterize I disinfect the potable tank and the rest of the system with bleach, but before that I run a tank full of water with vinegar through the lines -- then the bleach. I don't have an issue with the taste of antifreeze in the water.
All that said, just blowing out the lines will obviously work most of the time if you do it right.
TT
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